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Robert Jones, Jr.'s avatar

I have always said that that music industry wears its racism with great pride. That explains why SZA can release a pop album and Billboard, the Grammys, and Rolling Stone consider it R&B, while Justin Bieber can release an R&B album and those same organizations consider it pop. It’s because those terms aren’t really genre classifications as much as they’re racial designations. “Pop” and “R&B,” as understood by the music industry, are euphemisms for “white people enter through the front door” and “Black people enter through the back door.” These are Jim-Crow-era-water-fountain conditions and the music industry remains one of the spaces where segregation is openly operational and enforced.

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Takondwa Semphere's avatar

genres are a funny little concept, aren’t they? 🤔

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Sara Fran's avatar

You know that part is what pushed them over the edge 😒. They love their lines.

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moná.thomas's avatar

wowowow this is so wild. very much “taking my ball and going home.” loser behavior.

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Johnathon Haney's avatar

Or "I can only win by cheating" but I suppose that's the same.

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Sara Fran's avatar

“Traditional country instrumentation” includes “electric guitar, and live drums?” Um, no it doesn’t? It sounds like they’re still accepting rock-y country as real country…which means this is truly just a meaningless way to say “only whites.”

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Johnathon Haney's avatar

Yeah but would you expect any less from the crowd that hated on the outlaw country boys way back when? And the latter WERE white.

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Sara Fran's avatar

True: re outlaws. I’d say that’s it’s not just about being white, but about whiteness and white supremacy as an ideology. You can’t just be white, you have to perform whiteness. (This is despite the fact that country came from folk rebellion.)

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hillzalive's avatar

This is *exactly* FM country in a nutshell.

We all know AP Carter was playing with black folks - he was poor and so was southern blackness (which was also being criminalized/extralegally persecuted to put it mildly). So we don’t SEE the way they played together and developed Americana, folk, and country together. And because it wasn’t preserved with a lot of importance/dignity, it’s hard to visualize today.

It’s really crazy how insidiously country music has mainstreamed and normalized white supremacy once again on the backs of Black musicians.

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Johnathon Haney's avatar

Performing whiteness was something the OG outlaw country boys refused to do to a man.

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Sara Fran's avatar

No integrity in it

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Sara Fran's avatar

Yeah exactly what I mean!

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hillzalive's avatar

That’s the hilarious part. Rockabilly has long been ‘country’ though admittedly it took a minute to be accepted in the canon.

But it wasn’t called “a clown show” when George jones and Johnny cash did it …

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"M"'s avatar

Well you know part of that is bc no journalist was willing to ask these "new" singers what specifically they meant when they said that.

https://www.whatimreading.net/p/grammys-add-traditional-country-category-beyonce/comment/126019001

They're afraid of "losing access", just like the ones who "cover" (the clown show that is) the current White House

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Coco's avatar

Nasty work.

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Renee Perry's avatar

These crackers, I swear to god.

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Johnathon Haney's avatar

I mean, tell me you're a fearful racist without saying you're a fearful racist with the "traditional country" shit.

My gods, you white boys THAT fearful you're unable to compete?

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"M"'s avatar

They heard those six part a cappella harmonies and Tiera Kennedy's acoustic cover of Texas Hold 'Em and they got upset

They can't do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxLIjXligqs

I mean ... MAYBE with six billion in Nashbucks & punch-ins they could

but

:-/

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Paprika Pink's avatar

Those cowards

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I. Pat-Simms's avatar

They are exhausting.

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Michael Motley's avatar

They can get a traditional country category, but we can’t get a contemporary hip-hop category so guys like Killer Mike aren’t going up against Kendrick and Tyler, The Creator.

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hillzalive's avatar

This part.

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Robert L Bohannon Jr's avatar

Traditional country music WTF. They don’t want another BLK to win in that genre. So just keep your country music sounding the same way it has sounded for years. You need to grow the genre with the times.

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"M"'s avatar

The truly ridiculous thing about that is that "the way it sounded for years" would be Charley Pride back in the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUYJ_s0EYYM

And Rhiannon Giddens now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MZKbJIhPCk

So I think it's basically your second sentence

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tecolote42's avatar

Minks. Pin heads. Worthless. Do I make myself clear?

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Johnathon Haney's avatar

Crystal...and far nicer than I am about this.

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Jenn's avatar

Wow

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"M"'s avatar

I'm sure John Rich would be very unhappy to discover that the banjo in its original form was brought over from Africa

Because something tells me he might not know it

I would be curious to know also if any *journalist* - especially any *music journalist* -- followed up with him (or anyone else complaining about this) to find out why *exactly* he believed this particular NARAS Grammy ceremony was a "clown show", as he categorized it

They let recording -- I'm struggling to say "artists" but here we are -- um, people, SAY things like that without holding them to specific account concerning what they actually MEAN.

#WordsMatter

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QYrxLW0a88A

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Mike Johnson's avatar

It does not help their optics that rap country acts like Florida Georgia Line have been nominated at various shows without complaint for years.

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